MR POTTINGER: I was thinking -- just looking it up before that was fine but :@0.133129:0.084898:0.856521:0.084898:0.856521:0.063241:0.133129:0.063241:0.020339:0.015260:0.005720:0.012709:0.016518:0.014194:0.013979:0.007618:0.016518:0.016518:0.014194:0.015260:0.006360:0.005720:0.007618:0.005720:0.016733:0.010158:0.008900:0.005720:0.006360:0.011439:0.006360:0.011439:0.011439:0.006360:0.011439:0.011650:0.005720:0.007618:0.007618:0.005722:0.006360:0.011439:0.008900:0.006360:0.005930:0.006360:0.011439:0.011439:0.011439:0.006566:0.011439:0.011439:0.005720:0.006360:0.006360:0.005720:0.011439:0.011439:0.005720:0.011439:0.010158:0.007838:0.011439:0.007618:0.010158:0.005720:0.006360:0.011439:0.010158:0.006360:0.005932:0.016518:0.010158:0.009110:0.005720:0.007838:0.006360:0.011439:0.010158:0.005720:0.011439:0.011439:0.006360:0.005720
actually, thinking again, we’re not ready because we just need to check this point of :@0.133976:0.104545:0.909619:0.104545:0.909619:0.082888:0.133976:0.082888:0.010158:0.010158:0.006360:0.011439:0.010158:0.006360:0.006779:0.011016:0.005720:0.005720:0.006360:0.011439:0.006568:0.011439:0.011439:0.006360:0.011439:0.011439:0.005720:0.010380:0.011439:0.010158:0.006360:0.011650:0.005720:0.005720:0.016518:0.010158:0.007618:0.007618:0.010158:0.005720:0.011439:0.011439:0.006360:0.005720:0.007838:0.010158:0.010158:0.011863:0.011016:0.005720:0.011439:0.010158:0.010158:0.010380:0.011650:0.008900:0.010158:0.005720:0.016518:0.010158:0.005720:0.006360:0.011439:0.008900:0.006360:0.005930:0.011439:0.010158:0.010158:0.011439:0.005720:0.006360:0.011439:0.005720:0.010380:0.011439:0.010158:0.010382:0.011439:0.005720:0.006360:0.011439:0.006360:0.008900:0.005720:0.011439:0.011439:0.006360:0.011650:0.006360:0.005720:0.011439:0.007838:0.005720
law.:@0.133976:0.124048:0.172732:0.124048:0.172732:0.102391:0.133976:0.102391:0.006360:0.010158:0.016518:0.005720
A:@0.082293:0.143840:0.098811:0.143840:0.098811:0.122183:0.082293:0.122183:0.016518
THE RECORDER: Yes, you need to clarify that. My knee-jerk reaction is that it will :@0.133129:0.163793:0.920073:0.163793:0.920073:0.142136:0.133129:0.142136:0.013979:0.016518:0.013979:0.005720:0.015260:0.013979:0.015464:0.016518:0.015260:0.016518:0.014194:0.015260:0.006360:0.005720:0.016518:0.010380:0.008900:0.005720:0.006143:0.011016:0.011439:0.011439:0.005720:0.011439:0.010158:0.010158:0.011650:0.005720:0.006360:0.011439:0.005720:0.010158:0.006360:0.010158:0.007618:0.006360:0.008261:0.011016:0.005720:0.006360:0.011650:0.010158:0.006360:0.005720:0.005720:0.020760:0.011016:0.005720:0.011439:0.011439:0.010158:0.010412:0.007618:0.006360:0.010158:0.007618:0.011439:0.005720:0.007618:0.010158:0.010158:0.010380:0.006360:0.006566:0.011439:0.011439:0.005720:0.006360:0.008900:0.005720:0.006360:0.011439:0.010158:0.006360:0.005720:0.006566:0.006360:0.005720:0.016518:0.006360:0.006360:0.006360:0.005720
be on the Crown to prove that ---------:@0.133976:0.183296:0.482346:0.183296:0.482346:0.161639:0.133976:0.161639:0.011439:0.010158:0.005720:0.011439:0.011439:0.005720:0.006360:0.011439:0.010158:0.005720:0.015464:0.007618:0.011439:0.016518:0.011439:0.005720:0.006360:0.011652:0.005720:0.011439:0.007618:0.011652:0.011439:0.010158:0.005720:0.006360:0.011439:0.010158:0.006360:0.005720:0.007618:0.007618:0.007618:0.007618:0.007618:0.007618:0.007836:0.007618:0.007618
MR POTTINGER: That’s my knee-jerk reaction as well. :@0.133129:0.212928:0.661180:0.212928:0.661180:0.191271:0.133129:0.191271:0.020339:0.015260:0.005720:0.012720:0.016518:0.014194:0.013979:0.007618:0.016518:0.016518:0.014194:0.015260:0.006360:0.005720:0.013979:0.011439:0.010380:0.006360:0.007618:0.008900:0.005932:0.018005:0.011016:0.005720:0.011439:0.011439:0.010158:0.010380:0.007618:0.006360:0.010158:0.007618:0.011439:0.005720:0.007618:0.010158:0.010158:0.010380:0.006360:0.006566:0.011439:0.011439:0.005720:0.010158:0.008900:0.005720:0.016518:0.010158:0.006360:0.006360:0.005720:0.005720
B:@0.082298:0.242827:0.090941:0.242827:0.090941:0.228636:0.082298:0.228636:0.008643
THE RECORDER: -—but I -------:@0.134410:0.244335:0.451483:0.244335:0.451483:0.222678:0.134410:0.222678:0.013979:0.016518:0.013979:0.005720:0.015260:0.013979:0.015466:0.016518:0.015260:0.016518:0.014192:0.015260:0.006360:0.005720:0.007618:0.023100:0.011439:0.011439:0.006360:0.005720:0.007618:0.005720:0.007618:0.007618:0.007618:0.007618:0.007618:0.007618:0.007618
MR POTTINGER: But I just think we should clarify it. :@0.133152:0.275157:0.647286:0.275157:0.647286:0.253500:0.133152:0.253500:0.020339:0.015260:0.005720:0.012709:0.016518:0.014194:0.013979:0.007618:0.016518:0.016518:0.014194:0.015260:0.006360:0.005720:0.015260:0.011439:0.006566:0.005720:0.007618:0.005720:0.006360:0.011439:0.008900:0.006360:0.005720:0.006360:0.011439:0.006360:0.011650:0.011439:0.005720:0.016518:0.010158:0.005720:0.008900:0.011650:0.011439:0.011439:0.006360:0.011439:0.005932:0.010158:0.006360:0.010158:0.007618:0.006360:0.008051:0.011016:0.005720:0.006360:0.006360:0.005720:0.005720
THE RECORDER: I agree entirely. Mr Kennedy, any views? :@0.133152:0.305818:0.704825:0.305818:0.704825:0.284161:0.133152:0.284161:0.013979:0.016518:0.013979:0.005720:0.015260:0.013979:0.015464:0.016518:0.015260:0.016518:0.014194:0.015260:0.006360:0.005720:0.007618:0.005720:0.010380:0.011439:0.007618:0.010158:0.010158:0.005720:0.010158:0.011439:0.006360:0.006360:0.007618:0.010158:0.006779:0.011016:0.005930:0.005720:0.020339:0.007618:0.005720:0.016518:0.010380:0.011439:0.011652:0.010158:0.011652:0.011014:0.005932:0.005720:0.010158:0.011865:0.011014:0.005720:0.011439:0.006360:0.010380:0.016518:0.008900:0.010380:0.005720
C:@0.082298:0.336765:0.090766:0.336765:0.090766:0.322574:0.082298:0.322574:0.008468
MR KENNEDY: I agree with everything that’s been said. :@0.134410:0.338274:0.672173:0.338274:0.672173:0.316616:0.134410:0.316616:0.020339:0.015260:0.005720:0.016518:0.013979:0.016736:0.016518:0.013979:0.016518:0.016518:0.006360:0.005932:0.007618:0.005720:0.010158:0.011439:0.007838:0.010158:0.010158:0.005720:0.016518:0.006360:0.006360:0.011439:0.005720:0.010158:0.011439:0.010158:0.008051:0.011014:0.006568:0.011439:0.006360:0.011439:0.011439:0.005720:0.006566:0.011439:0.010158:0.006568:0.007618:0.008900:0.005720:0.011439:0.010158:0.010158:0.011439:0.005720:0.008900:0.010158:0.006360:0.011652:0.005720:0.005720
THE RECORDER: Okay. :@0.133152:0.371025:0.378885:0.371025:0.378885:0.349367:0.133152:0.349367:0.013979:0.016518:0.013979:0.005720:0.015260:0.013979:0.015466:0.016518:0.015260:0.016518:0.014192:0.015260:0.006360:0.005720:0.016518:0.011652:0.010380:0.011016:0.005720:0.005720
MR KENNEDY: It’s a single-issue case. :@0.133152:0.401541:0.514609:0.401541:0.514609:0.379884:0.133152:0.379884:0.020339:0.015260:0.005720:0.016518:0.013979:0.016736:0.016518:0.013979:0.016518:0.016518:0.006360:0.005932:0.007618:0.006360:0.007618:0.008900:0.005720:0.010158:0.005930:0.008900:0.006360:0.011439:0.011439:0.006360:0.010158:0.007618:0.006360:0.008900:0.008900:0.011650:0.010158:0.005720:0.010158:0.010158:0.008900:0.010158:0.005720:0.005720
D:@0.082316:0.425513:0.098834:0.425513:0.098834:0.403856:0.082316:0.403856:0.016518
THE RECORDER: Yes. :@0.133152:0.445466:0.365117:0.445466:0.365117:0.423809:0.133152:0.423809:0.013979:0.016518:0.013979:0.005720:0.015260:0.013979:0.015464:0.016518:0.015260:0.016518:0.014194:0.015260:0.006360:0.005720:0.016518:0.010380:0.008900:0.005720:0.005720
MR KENNEDY: Whether he was using that vehicle for working that day. :@0.133152:0.476288:0.818126:0.476288:0.818126:0.454631:0.133152:0.454631:0.020339:0.015260:0.005720:0.016518:0.013979:0.016736:0.016518:0.013979:0.016518:0.016518:0.006360:0.005932:0.021597:0.011439:0.010158:0.006566:0.011439:0.010158:0.007618:0.005720:0.011439:0.010158:0.005720:0.016518:0.010158:0.008900:0.005930:0.011439:0.008900:0.006360:0.011439:0.011439:0.005720:0.006360:0.011650:0.010158:0.006360:0.005720:0.011650:0.010158:0.011439:0.006360:0.010158:0.006360:0.010158:0.005720:0.007838:0.011439:0.007618:0.005720:0.016518:0.011439:0.007618:0.011439:0.006360:0.011439:0.011439:0.005720:0.006566:0.011439:0.010158:0.006360:0.005932:0.011439:0.010380:0.011016:0.005930:0.005720
THE RECORDER: Right. :@0.133152:0.506804:0.380383:0.506804:0.380383:0.485147:0.133152:0.485147:0.013979:0.016518:0.013979:0.005720:0.015260:0.013979:0.015464:0.016518:0.015260:0.016518:0.014192:0.015260:0.006360:0.005720:0.015260:0.006568:0.011439:0.011439:0.006360:0.005720:0.005720
E:@0.082316:0.526596:0.096294:0.526596:0.096294:0.504939:0.082316:0.504939:0.013979
MR KENNEDY: That’s the issue. :@0.133152:0.546388:0.453009:0.546388:0.453009:0.524731:0.133152:0.524731:0.020339:0.015260:0.005720:0.016518:0.013979:0.016736:0.016518:0.013979:0.016518:0.016518:0.006360:0.005932:0.013979:0.011439:0.010158:0.006360:0.007838:0.008900:0.005720:0.006360:0.011439:0.010158:0.005720:0.006360:0.008900:0.008900:0.011439:0.010158:0.005932:0.005720
THE RECORDER: Can you help me with this? Whose -- whose policy is it? Is it a :@0.133152:0.566341:0.899795:0.566341:0.899795:0.544684:0.133152:0.544684:0.013979:0.016518:0.013979:0.005720:0.015260:0.013979:0.015464:0.016518:0.015260:0.016518:0.014192:0.015260:0.006360:0.005720:0.015260:0.010380:0.011439:0.005932:0.011016:0.011650:0.011439:0.005720:0.011439:0.010158:0.006360:0.011439:0.005930:0.017799:0.010158:0.005720:0.016518:0.006360:0.006568:0.011439:0.005720:0.006360:0.011439:0.006360:0.009110:0.010380:0.005720:0.021396:0.011439:0.011439:0.008900:0.010158:0.005720:0.007618:0.007618:0.005942:0.016518:0.011439:0.011439:0.008900:0.010158:0.005720:0.011650:0.011439:0.006360:0.006360:0.010380:0.011016:0.005930:0.006568:0.008900:0.005720:0.006360:0.006360:0.010380:0.005720:0.007618:0.008900:0.005720:0.006360:0.006360:0.005720:0.010158:0.005720
work policy? Is it a domestic policy? What are we talking -----------:@0.133998:0.585989:0.753721:0.585989:0.753721:0.564332:0.133998:0.564332:0.016518:0.011439:0.007618:0.011439:0.005720:0.011439:0.011439:0.006360:0.006360:0.010593:0.011016:0.010380:0.005720:0.007618:0.008900:0.005720:0.006360:0.006360:0.005720:0.010380:0.005720:0.011439:0.011652:0.017582:0.010380:0.008900:0.006360:0.006360:0.010158:0.005720:0.011439:0.011439:0.006360:0.006566:0.010593:0.010803:0.010380:0.005932:0.021396:0.011439:0.010158:0.006566:0.005720:0.010158:0.007838:0.010158:0.005720:0.016518:0.010158:0.005720:0.006360:0.010158:0.006360:0.011439:0.006360:0.011439:0.011650:0.005720:0.007618:0.007618:0.007618:0.007618:0.007618:0.007618:0.007618:0.007618:0.007618:0.007618:0.007618
MR KENNEDY: It’s his -- it’s his policy. :@0.133152:0.615621:0.523772:0.615621:0.523772:0.593964:0.133152:0.593964:0.020339:0.015260:0.005720:0.016518:0.013979:0.016736:0.016518:0.013979:0.016518:0.016518:0.006360:0.005932:0.007618:0.006360:0.007618:0.008900:0.005720:0.011652:0.006360:0.008900:0.005720:0.007618:0.007618:0.005717:0.006360:0.006360:0.007618:0.008900:0.005720:0.011439:0.006566:0.008900:0.005720:0.011439:0.011439:0.006360:0.006360:0.010590:0.011016:0.005932:0.005720
F:@0.082293:0.635413:0.095013:0.635413:0.095013:0.613756:0.082293:0.613756:0.012720
THE RECORDER: It’s his policy. And has he got a copy of it? :@0.133152:0.657151:0.719717:0.657151:0.719717:0.635493:0.133152:0.635493:0.013979:0.016518:0.013979:0.005720:0.015260:0.013979:0.015466:0.016518:0.015260:0.016518:0.014192:0.015260:0.006360:0.005720:0.007618:0.006360:0.007618:0.009110:0.005720:0.011439:0.006360:0.008900:0.005720:0.011439:0.011439:0.006360:0.006360:0.010593:0.011014:0.005932:0.005720:0.016518:0.011439:0.011439:0.005720:0.011652:0.010158:0.008900:0.005720:0.011439:0.010158:0.005932:0.011439:0.011439:0.006360:0.005720:0.010158:0.005720:0.010158:0.011439:0.011863:0.011016:0.005930:0.011439:0.007838:0.005720:0.006360:0.006360:0.010380:0.005720
MR KENNEDY: Yes. We’ve got a copy available. :@0.133152:0.687377:0.607166:0.687377:0.607166:0.665720:0.133152:0.665720:0.020339:0.015260:0.005720:0.016518:0.013979:0.016736:0.016518:0.013979:0.016518:0.016518:0.006360:0.005932:0.016518:0.010158:0.008900:0.005720:0.005932:0.021396:0.010158:0.007838:0.011439:0.010158:0.005720:0.011439:0.011439:0.006360:0.005720:0.010158:0.005930:0.010158:0.011439:0.011863:0.011016:0.005720:0.010158:0.011439:0.010380:0.006360:0.006566:0.010158:0.011439:0.006360:0.010158:0.005720:0.005720
G:@0.083993:0.721118:0.094852:0.721118:0.094852:0.706880:0.083993:0.706880:0.010859
THE RECORDER: Could — could — could we see a copy of it ---:@0.094797:0.721618:0.712252:0.721618:0.712252:0.699961:0.094797:0.699961:0.013979:0.016518:0.013979:0.005720:0.015260:0.013979:0.015466:0.016518:0.015260:0.016518:0.014192:0.015260:0.006360:0.005720:0.015260:0.011652:0.011439:0.006360:0.011439:0.005720:0.022878:0.005729:0.010158:0.011439:0.011439:0.006568:0.011439:0.005720:0.022878:0.005717:0.010158:0.011652:0.011439:0.006360:0.011439:0.005932:0.016518:0.010158:0.005720:0.008900:0.010158:0.010158:0.005720:0.010158:0.005720:0.010158:0.011439:0.011863:0.011016:0.005932:0.011439:0.007838:0.005720:0.006360:0.006360:0.005720:0.007618:0.007618:0.007618
MR KENNEDY: Sure. :@0.133141:0.745880:0.351095:0.745880:0.351095:0.724223:0.133141:0.724223:0.020339:0.015260:0.005720:0.016518:0.013979:0.016736:0.016518:0.013979:0.016518:0.016518:0.006360:0.005932:0.012709:0.011439:0.007618:0.010158:0.005932:0.005720
THE RECORDER:  ----- whilst this is going on so that we can at least have a look :@0.133141:0.776251:0.894008:0.776251:0.894008:0.754594:0.133141:0.754594:0.013979:0.016518:0.013979:0.005720:0.015260:0.013979:0.015464:0.016518:0.015260:0.016518:0.014192:0.015260:0.006360:0.005720:0.005720:0.007618:0.007618:0.007838:0.007618:0.007618:0.005724:0.016518:0.011439:0.006360:0.006360:0.008900:0.006360:0.005720:0.006360:0.011652:0.006360:0.008900:0.005720:0.006360:0.008900:0.005720:0.011652:0.011439:0.006360:0.011439:0.011439:0.005720:0.011652:0.011439:0.005720:0.008900:0.011439:0.005720:0.006360:0.011439:0.010158:0.006360:0.005720:0.016736:0.010158:0.005720:0.010158:0.010158:0.011439:0.005720:0.010158:0.006360:0.005720:0.006568:0.010158:0.010158:0.009108:0.006360:0.005720:0.011439:0.010158:0.011439:0.010158:0.005720:0.010158:0.005720:0.006360:0.011439:0.011652:0.011439:0.005720
at what’s -- what’s happening. :@0.133987:0.795609:0.418028:0.795609:0.418028:0.773952:0.133987:0.773952:0.010158:0.006360:0.005720:0.016518:0.011439:0.010158:0.006360:0.007618:0.008900:0.005720:0.007618:0.007618:0.005971:0.016518:0.011439:0.010158:0.006360:0.007618:0.008900:0.005925:0.011439:0.010158:0.011650:0.011439:0.010158:0.011439:0.006360:0.011439:0.011439:0.005720:0.005720
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