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THE RECORDER: Thank you.:@0.149400:0.140957:0.426883:0.140957:0.426883:0.120045:0.149400:0.120045:0.013415:0.015852:0.013415:0.005687:0.014645:0.013415:0.014645:0.015852:0.014645:0.015852:0.013415:0.014645:0.006104:0.005687:0.013415:0.010978:0.009749:0.011384:0.010572:0.005687:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.005489
(An excerpt from the recording of the telephone call was played):@0.251456:0.179193:0.822504:0.179193:0.822504:0.158282:0.251456:0.158282:0.007311:0.015451:0.010978:0.005687:0.009749:0.010978:0.009749:0.009749:0.007311:0.010978:0.006104:0.005687:0.007311:0.007311:0.011384:0.016669:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.005687:0.007311:0.009749:0.009749:0.010978:0.007311:0.010978:0.006104:0.011384:0.010574:0.005687:0.010978:0.007311:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.005687:0.006104:0.009749:0.006104:0.009749:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.009749:0.005687:0.009749:0.009749:0.006104:0.006104:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.008541:0.005687:0.010978:0.006104:0.009749:0.010978:0.009749:0.010978:0.007311
MR KENNEDY: That’s -- that’s you, yes?:@0.149400:0.212830:0.527095:0.212830:0.527095:0.191918:0.149400:0.191918:0.019519:0.014645:0.005687:0.015852:0.013415:0.015852:0.015852:0.013415:0.015852:0.015852:0.006104:0.005687:0.013415:0.010978:0.009749:0.006104:0.007311:0.008541:0.005730:0.007311:0.007311:0.005709:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.006104:0.007311:0.008541:0.005687:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.005691:0.005687:0.010978:0.009749:0.008541:0.009749
A Yes, it certainly sounds like me.:@0.149400:0.228354:0.453268:0.228354:0.453268:0.207443:0.149400:0.207443:0.015451:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.008541:0.005693:0.005687:0.006104:0.006104:0.005687:0.009749:0.009749:0.007311:0.006104:0.009749:0.006104:0.010978:0.006104:0.010978:0.005687:0.008541:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.008541:0.005687:0.006104:0.006104:0.010572:0.009749:0.005687:0.016669:0.009749:0.005489
(The recording continued):@0.421412:0.261991:0.651876:0.261991:0.651876:0.241079:0.421412:0.241079:0.007311:0.013415:0.010978:0.009749:0.005687:0.007311:0.009749:0.009749:0.010978:0.007311:0.010978:0.006104:0.010978:0.010572:0.005687:0.009749:0.010978:0.010978:0.006104:0.006104:0.010978:0.010978:0.009749:0.010978:0.007311
Q You said to the insurance company there “Looking at the van, it’s got a load of tools :@0.149400:0.295915:0.920881:0.295915:0.920881:0.275003:0.149400:0.275003:0.015852:0.005687:0.015852:0.010978:0.010978:0.005687:0.008541:0.009749:0.006104:0.010978:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.008541:0.010978:0.007311:0.009749:0.010978:0.009749:0.009749:0.005687:0.009749:0.010978:0.016669:0.010978:0.009749:0.010978:0.010978:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.007311:0.009749:0.005687:0.009749:0.013415:0.010978:0.010978:0.010570:0.006104:0.011384:0.010572:0.005687:0.009749:0.006104:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.005851:0.010572:0.010164:0.010978:0.005693:0.005687:0.006104:0.006104:0.007311:0.008541:0.005687:0.010572:0.010978:0.006104:0.005687:0.009749:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.010978:0.005687:0.010978:0.007311:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.010978:0.006104:0.008541:0.005489
in”?:@0.149400:0.313739:0.185979:0.313739:0.185979:0.292828:0.149400:0.292828:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.009749
A Yes, yes. That does sound like that’s what I said, yes.:@0.149400:0.329839:0.641871:0.329839:0.641871:0.308927:0.149400:0.308927:0.015451:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.008541:0.005693:0.005687:0.010978:0.009749:0.008541:0.005691:0.005687:0.013415:0.010978:0.009749:0.006104:0.005687:0.010978:0.010978:0.009749:0.008541:0.005687:0.008541:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.005687:0.006104:0.006104:0.010570:0.009749:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.006104:0.007311:0.008541:0.005687:0.015852:0.010978:0.009749:0.006104:0.005687:0.006912:0.005687:0.008541:0.009749:0.006104:0.010978:0.005693:0.005687:0.010978:0.009749:0.008541:0.005489
Q And when you said that to the insurance company, you were lying, weren’t you? A I :@0.149400:0.364050:0.919881:0.364050:0.919881:0.343139:0.149400:0.343139:0.015852:0.005687:0.015451:0.010978:0.010978:0.005687:0.015852:0.010978:0.009749:0.010978:0.005687:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.005687:0.008541:0.009749:0.006104:0.010978:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.006104:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.008541:0.010978:0.007311:0.009749:0.010978:0.009749:0.009749:0.005687:0.009749:0.010572:0.016669:0.010978:0.009749:0.010978:0.010978:0.005691:0.005687:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.007311:0.009749:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.006104:0.010978:0.010572:0.005693:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.007311:0.009749:0.010978:0.007311:0.006104:0.005687:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.009749:0.005687:0.015453:0.006099:0.006910:0.005489
don’t recall lying. I’m faced with two -- obviously I’ve got my recollection and my notes :@0.149400:0.382162:0.931867:0.382162:0.931867:0.361251:0.149400:0.361251:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.007311:0.006104:0.005291:0.007311:0.009749:0.009749:0.009749:0.006104:0.006104:0.005291:0.006104:0.010978:0.006104:0.010978:0.010572:0.005691:0.005291:0.006912:0.007724:0.016671:0.005291:0.007311:0.009749:0.009749:0.009749:0.010978:0.005291:0.015852:0.006104:0.006104:0.010978:0.005291:0.006104:0.015852:0.010978:0.005303:0.007311:0.007311:0.004896:0.010978:0.010978:0.010572:0.006104:0.010978:0.011384:0.008541:0.006104:0.010978:0.005291:0.006912:0.007724:0.010572:0.009749:0.005291:0.010572:0.010978:0.006104:0.005693:0.016669:0.010978:0.005265:0.007311:0.009749:0.009749:0.010978:0.006104:0.006104:0.009749:0.009749:0.006104:0.006104:0.010978:0.010978:0.005291:0.009749:0.010978:0.010978:0.005291:0.016669:0.010978:0.005291:0.010978:0.010978:0.006104:0.009749:0.008945:0.005489
and then I’ve obviously got that recording.:@0.149400:0.400562:0.524825:0.400562:0.524825:0.379650:0.149400:0.379650:0.009749:0.010978:0.010978:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.010978:0.005687:0.006912:0.007724:0.010572:0.009749:0.005687:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.006104:0.010978:0.010978:0.008541:0.006104:0.010978:0.006097:0.010572:0.010978:0.006104:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.006104:0.005687:0.007311:0.009749:0.009749:0.010978:0.007311:0.010978:0.006104:0.010978:0.010572:0.005489
Q We went through that your notes were comprehensive. Yes? Didn’t we? Officer?:@0.149400:0.433048:0.885054:0.433048:0.885054:0.412137:0.149400:0.412137:0.015852:0.005687:0.020727:0.009749:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.010978:0.006104:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.007311:0.010978:0.010978:0.010572:0.010978:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.006104:0.005687:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.007311:0.005687:0.010978:0.010978:0.006104:0.009749:0.008541:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.007311:0.009749:0.005687:0.009749:0.010978:0.016671:0.011384:0.007311:0.009749:0.010978:0.009749:0.010978:0.008541:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.005691:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.008541:0.009749:0.005687:0.015852:0.006104:0.010978:0.010978:0.007311:0.006104:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.009749:0.005687:0.015852:0.007311:0.007311:0.006104:0.009749:0.009749:0.007311:0.009749
A Yes, you asked me, yes.:@0.149400:0.449435:0.382924:0.449435:0.382924:0.428524:0.149400:0.428524:0.015451:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.008541:0.005693:0.005687:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.005687:0.009749:0.008541:0.010572:0.009749:0.010978:0.006099:0.016671:0.009749:0.005693:0.005687:0.010978:0.009749:0.008541:0.005489
Q Yes. And we went through that you had outlined the factors informing your view that:@0.149400:0.481922:0.923557:0.481922:0.923557:0.461010:0.149400:0.461010:0.015852:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.008541:0.005693:0.005687:0.015451:0.010978:0.010978:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.010978:0.006104:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.007311:0.010978:0.010978:0.010572:0.010978:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.006104:0.005687:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.005687:0.010978:0.009749:0.010978:0.005687:0.010978:0.010978:0.006104:0.006104:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.010978:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.005687:0.007311:0.009749:0.009749:0.006104:0.010978:0.007311:0.008541:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.007311:0.010978:0.007311:0.016674:0.006104:0.011384:0.010570:0.005687:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.007311:0.005687:0.010572:0.006104:0.010164:0.015852:0.005861:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.006104
these people were working? Yes?:@0.149400:0.500609:0.444876:0.500609:0.444876:0.479697:0.149400:0.479697:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.008541:0.009749:0.005687:0.010978:0.009749:0.010978:0.010978:0.006104:0.009749:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.007311:0.009749:0.005687:0.015852:0.010978:0.007311:0.010572:0.006104:0.011386:0.010570:0.009749:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.008541:0.009749
A Yes.:@0.149400:0.519296:0.210168:0.519296:0.210168:0.498384:0.149400:0.498384:0.015451:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.008541:0.005489
Q Obviously tools in the van would be an obvious indicator of that? Yes?:@0.149400:0.552357:0.796972:0.552357:0.796972:0.531445:0.149400:0.531445:0.015852:0.005687:0.015852:0.010978:0.010572:0.006104:0.010978:0.010978:0.008541:0.006104:0.010978:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.010978:0.006104:0.008541:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.005687:0.010572:0.009749:0.010978:0.005687:0.015852:0.010978:0.010978:0.006104:0.010978:0.005687:0.010978:0.009749:0.005687:0.009749:0.010978:0.005687:0.010978:0.010978:0.010572:0.006506:0.010978:0.010978:0.008541:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.010978:0.006104:0.009749:0.009749:0.006104:0.010978:0.007311:0.005687:0.010978:0.007311:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.006104:0.009749:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.008541:0.009749
A Yes.:@0.149400:0.567882:0.210168:0.567882:0.210168:0.546970:0.149400:0.546970:0.015451:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.008541:0.005489
Q No reference in your statement to tools?:@0.149400:0.601518:0.524155:0.601518:0.524155:0.580606:0.149400:0.580606:0.015852:0.005687:0.015852:0.010978:0.005687:0.007311:0.009749:0.007311:0.009749:0.007311:0.009749:0.010978:0.009749:0.009749:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.005687:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.007311:0.005687:0.008541:0.006104:0.009749:0.006104:0.009749:0.016671:0.009749:0.010978:0.006104:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.010978:0.006104:0.008541:0.009749
A No. No reference to tools.:@0.149400:0.617330:0.399567:0.617330:0.399567:0.596419:0.149400:0.596419:0.015451:0.005687:0.015852:0.010978:0.005691:0.005687:0.015852:0.010978:0.005687:0.007311:0.009749:0.007311:0.009749:0.007311:0.009749:0.010978:0.009749:0.009749:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.010978:0.006104:0.008541:0.005489
Q No reference to tools in the Magistrates’ Court? Yes?:@0.149400:0.650392:0.641623:0.650392:0.641623:0.629480:0.149400:0.629480:0.015852:0.005687:0.015852:0.010978:0.005687:0.007311:0.009749:0.007311:0.009749:0.007311:0.009749:0.010978:0.009749:0.009749:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.010978:0.006104:0.008541:0.005687:0.006104:0.010570:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.005687:0.019519:0.009749:0.010572:0.006104:0.008541:0.006104:0.007311:0.009749:0.006104:0.009749:0.008541:0.007311:0.005687:0.014645:0.011384:0.010978:0.007311:0.006104:0.009749:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.008541:0.009749
A No. Yes, correct.:@0.149400:0.665916:0.320715:0.665916:0.320715:0.645005:0.149400:0.645005:0.015852:0.005291:0.015852:0.010978:0.005693:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.008541:0.005693:0.005687:0.009749:0.010978:0.007311:0.007311:0.009749:0.009749:0.006104:0.005489
Q On the scene there you’re ringing up the insurance company saying there’s a load of :@0.149400:0.699265:0.918199:0.699265:0.918199:0.678354:0.149400:0.678354:0.015852:0.005687:0.015852:0.010978:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.005687:0.008541:0.009749:0.009749:0.010978:0.009749:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.007311:0.009749:0.005687:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.007311:0.007311:0.009749:0.005687:0.007311:0.006104:0.010978:0.010570:0.006104:0.010978:0.010572:0.005687:0.010978:0.010978:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.008541:0.010978:0.007311:0.009749:0.010978:0.009749:0.009749:0.005687:0.009749:0.010978:0.016669:0.010978:0.009749:0.010978:0.010978:0.005687:0.008541:0.009749:0.010978:0.006104:0.011384:0.010572:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.007311:0.009749:0.007311:0.008541:0.005687:0.009749:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.010978:0.005687:0.010978:0.007311:0.005489
tools in there - “It’s got a load of tools in”?:@0.149400:0.717952:0.528715:0.717952:0.528715:0.697041:0.149400:0.697041:0.006104:0.010978:0.010978:0.006104:0.008541:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.007311:0.009749:0.005708:0.007311:0.005709:0.009351:0.006912:0.006104:0.007311:0.008541:0.006099:0.010572:0.010978:0.006104:0.005687:0.009749:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.010978:0.005687:0.010978:0.007311:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.010978:0.006104:0.008541:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.009749:0.009749
A (No audible reply):@0.149400:0.736639:0.333129:0.736639:0.333129:0.715728:0.149400:0.715728:0.015852:0.005291:0.007311:0.015852:0.010978:0.005687:0.009749:0.010978:0.010978:0.006104:0.010978:0.006104:0.009749:0.005687:0.007311:0.009749:0.010978:0.006104:0.010978:0.007311
Q You — you were dishonest in your dealings with Mr Cordell, weren’t you?:@0.149400:0.769701:0.834378:0.769701:0.834378:0.748789:0.149400:0.748789:0.015852:0.005687:0.015852:0.010978:0.010978:0.005708:0.021956:0.005687:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.007311:0.009749:0.005687:0.010978:0.006104:0.008541:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.009749:0.008541:0.006104:0.005687:0.006104:0.010978:0.005687:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.006912:0.005687:0.010978:0.009749:0.009749:0.006104:0.006104:0.010978:0.010572:0.008541:0.005687:0.015852:0.006104:0.006104:0.010978:0.005687:0.019519:0.007311:0.005687:0.014645:0.010978:0.007311:0.010978:0.009749:0.006104:0.006104:0.005691:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.007311:0.009749:0.010978:0.007311:0.006104:0.005687:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.009749
A Well, I don’t believe I was, no.:@0.149400:0.785513:0.443926:0.785513:0.443926:0.764601:0.149400:0.764601:0.015451:0.005687:0.020727:0.009749:0.006104:0.006104:0.005693:0.005687:0.007311:0.005307:0.010978:0.010978:0.010978:0.007311:0.006104:0.005687:0.010978:0.009749:0.006104:0.006104:0.010164:0.010572:0.009749:0.005687:0.006912:0.005687:0.015852:0.009749:0.008541:0.005693:0.005687:0.010978:0.010978:0.005489
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