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A Yes.
Q Contents of the vehicle?
A Yes.
Q And so, if there were tools in the vehicle then they would be noted,
wouldn’t they?
A I believe that the particular interest is around the value so if it’s something
of value then it’s recorded. So, if tools are of a value to the individual
then, yes, they are, they will be recorded, yes.
Q Well, I mean, let’s use your — let’s use your phrase, “a load of tools”. If
you seize someone you believe to be a workman’s vehicle and it’s got a
load of tools in it, i.e., their livelihood, part of their livelihood, a seizure
notice would be obliged to cover the fact that a load of tools had been
seized, wouldn’t it?
A. Again I -- again I would come back to — to what extent they’re of value.
Certainly, if it was sort of large machinery then, yes. If it’s maybe a
couple of screwdrivers on the dashboard then I can see why that might get
overlooked. But, yes, in general you do record what’s -- in the vehicle,
yes.
Q Tools of the trade from a trade — you can’t just go about taking a
tradesman’s van with a load of tools in it without giving them a receipt
telling them what you’ve told -showing them what you’re taking
(Inaudible)?
A Correct.
Q I don’t know if you — did you draft the seizure notice in this case?
A I do not recall.
Q No. There’s no reference on the seizure notice in this case -- I think it will
be agreed in due course. No reference to tools on the seizure notice. Are
you able to explain that?
Q No, I’m — I’m not able to explain. I — I don’t recall whether it was
myself or another colleague that completed the seizure notice.
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Q All right. Just to make Mr Cordell’s position plain, I accept you formed
the impression that he was working. But he told you he wasn’t. Yes?
A Yes. Ultimately over the course of that interaction he did dispute that, yes.
Q And when you say that at the outset of the conversation, he told you he
was working, I suggest you’re being dishonest?
A No. I would reject that.
Q And the reason that he got arrested and the van seized rather than a fixed
penalty notice — you say it’s because he was being un-co-operative?
Yes?
A In terms of the seizure?
Q In terms of why this wasn’t dealt with by way of a fixed penalty notice,
why it was dealt with in terms of him being arrested and then the van
needing to be seized.
A Yes. He was being un-co-operative.