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A I don’t recall.
Q This was a point you raised with him by the roadside, and he explained to
you that these weren’t his — these weren’t working clothes. Do you recall
that?
A No, I don’t recall that, no.
Q The cards that you rely on to -- that informed your thinking. Did you seize
any of these cards?
A Yes, I did seize one of those business cards.
Q Have you got it?
A No. Unfortunately, I do not have it with me.
Q Why not?
A I was unable to obtain it from the property store at Kennington police
station.
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Q Again, this was a point that you raised with Mr Cordell by the roadside,
and he explained how the card wasn’t for him working as a tradesman,
rather that he has a company which acts as a middleman for tradesmen and
that’s why his name was on the card. Do you remember that?
A No, I do not recall that.
Q So, we’ve got the time of the day, you’ve got his clothing, you’ve got the
cards. Anything else?
A And his initial comment of course.
Q Workmen often, tradesmen, will carry tools around in a van, won’t they?
A Yes. Often.
Q Any tools?
A Not that I recall, no.
Q There’s no reference to tools in your statement, is there?
A No.
Q I think you were asked about this at the Magistrates’ Court. There’s no
secret. This matter has been before the Magistrates’ Court. And I think it’s
right you gave the same answer you’ve just given; you don’t recall there
being any tools?
A Yes. I don’t recall.
Q You would have noted them?
A I would like to think so.
Q If you’re noting factors which suggest that he is working as a tradesman
that day, there’s no way you’d have left that out, is there?
A Well, never say never, I suppose. Obviously, Mr Cordell was un-co-
operative, you know, throughout this sort of encounter from the moment he
realised I was going to be looking — dealing with the offence that I had
before me. But, no, I don’t recall any tools.
Q Okay. I’ve got a -- you spoke to the insurance company when you were by
the roadside, didn’t you?
A Yes, I did.
MR KENNEDY: I’ve got the — what I suggest is the tape of -- CD recording of this call. I
just want to play an excerpt of it.