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A (No audible reply)
Q Yes?
A I don’t recall the conversation we had, obviously the specifics of it, no.
Q You’ve told us about — do you remember that Mr Cordell spoke to the
insurance company first?
A No, I don’t recall that.
Q By the roadside what happens - see if this jogs your memory. Mr Cordell
spoke to the insurance company about the insurance, yes?
And then you — and then you rang subsequently. You were there when he
rang them and then he was there when you rang them there?
Yes?
A I — I’m sure he probably was with me when I called them.
Q Yes. And you’ve gone about — on about him being un-co-operative and so
on. What actually happened is he took affront to you ringing the insurance
company and lying to them about there being a load of tools in the van?
Do you remember that?
A No. Unfortunately, I do not recall that, no.
Q And he was saying “Why are you lying to the insurance company?
Why are you saying there’s tools in the van?
There isn’t.” Do you remember that?
A No, I — I do not recall that, no.
Q That’s the exchange, I’d suggest, that you’re characterising as him being
uncooperative?
A (No audible reply)
Q Mm?
A Sorry, I’m -- is there a question?
Q That’s the position, isn’t it?
A No. I don’t recall that. My --— I suppose my position would be that
obviously on stopping the van I — I don’t recall exactly when in the
sequence I’ve -- contacted the insurance company. You see, I hadn’t
searched the van, I suppose. I — I — you know, I’d seen from a glance sort
of loose items and debris in the - in the front of the van.
Q So, you hadn’t searched the van?
A No, I don’t believe I had by the — when I was phoning the insurance
company.
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A Yes, a statement format so there – I have a copy of that. MG11.
MR POTTINGER: The statement’s dated 14th November.
THE RECORDER: I’d like to see a copy of it, please. Thank you. When did you make this
statement?
A (No audible reply)
THE RECORDER: I can’t see a time or date-stamp on it.
MR KENNEDY: Yes, I know. That’s-well
A It will have been 4.30 pm in the writing room at Peckham.
THE RECORDER: How do you know that?
A It’s on the rear of the — the sheet.