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A Sort of the standard I like to try
Q Yes.
A and adhere to, yes.
Q Comprehensive, isn’t it?
A Yes, I — as -- best I can say, yes.
C All the relevant details that you could remember at the time of the writing
of the notes?
Q Yes.
A Now my questions really are geared towards a single issue here. It’s
whether this man was working that day in his van. Whether Mr Cordell
was working. He wasn’t stopped in the initial -- what happens in these
operations, isn’t it, is that vehicles drive along and there’s police at
usually two different spots in the road and cars are stopped if you want to
check their documents, cars and vehicles?
Is that right?
Obviously different operations will be organised differently but, yes, in
general that —that sounds about right.
Q And on this occasion Mr Cordell -- he wasn’t actually stopped, he pulled
up of his own accord close to where this operation was taking place? A
Yes.
Q And then you went and approached him? Is that right?
Q Yes, that’s correct. F
A And you formed the impression, you have told us in as many words, that
he was working that day?
Q Yes.
A Working as a — as some sort of tradesman that day?
Yes. G
Q Just to cover quick points, you didn’t see him working?
Q No.
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Q You did not speak to anyone he was working for?
A No.
Q You did not seize or view any paperwork pertaining to him working that
day?
A No.
Q When he was cautioned, he said “Nah, you don’t know nothing. I was
trying to get a job here. You don’t understand, man”?
That’s what you’ve noted?
A Yes.
Q Isn’t it the case that before he made that comment following arrest that he
was explaining to you that he wasn’t working and that he was actually
going to see someone about getting future work?
A The only comment I’ve made in my notes is — is that initial one which
stated -- where he stated “I’ll give you my insurance but I’m just going in
there to do some work”.