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Q Forget your notes for a moment. Let’s concentrate on this phrase, this
agreed phrase - “Nah, you don’t know nothing. I was trying to get a job
here.
You don’t understand, man.”
Okay?
Before he said that, isn’t it the position that he was explaining “I was
trying to get a job here”?
A I don’t recall that. My — my recollection is that he was there to try and
get some work.
Q All right — sorry?
A He was there to try and get some work. So, whether it — I don’t know
whether you’re asking me about a job or work. It’s
Q That was — that was what he said?
“I’m there to try and get some work”?
A Yes.
Q Now we know he said that after arrest. Yes?
You’ve noted that.
A I don’t believe it was after arrest.
Q Sorry. After caution.
A Yes, after caution.
Q Yes. He’d said that earlier before that, hadn’t he?
A Sorry, can I ask you just to go over that again?
Q Yes. Right. You’ve said how you cautioned him. And you reasonably
suspected Mr Cordell was driving the vehicle for business purposes. You
pointed out the offence of no insurance and then you cautioned him to
which the response
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Q was “Nah, you don’t know nothing. I was trying to get a job here. You
don’t understand, man.”
Okay?
A Yes, that’s correct.
Q So, after the caution he said to you that you weren’t understanding him
and that he was trying to get a job? B A Yes, that’s correct.
Q Okay. Now what I’m suggesting to you is before the caution there was a
conversation in which he was trying to get you to understand that he was
looking — he had an appointment to see someone about future work.
C I don’t recall that, unfortunately.

A the ~ it might just be a turn of phrase, but you said that he was wearing
working clothes in paint — covered in paint and dirt. That caused you to
suspect he was working.
Yes?
Q Yes.
A The — there was a dispute by the roadside, wasn’t there, about whether he
was working?
D Yes, yes. That is fair to say.