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Q and he was saying he wasn’t, and you were saying he was?
A Yes.
Q Right. The initial conversation with him or the initial interaction with him
you have said that he said “I’m busy. I’m just off to do some work. I’ll
give you my insurance. I’m just going in there to do some work.” He
never said that did he?
A Well, I believe he did, yes.
Q You’ve just said a moment ago that he was disputing that he was
working?
A Yes. He subsequently did dispute that.
Q Right. So, you’re saying there was this change of tack?
Is that your evidence?
A Yes. My evidence is that Mr Cordell when he realised that the trader’s
policy wasn’t going to sort of pull any wool over my eyes, he actually
became -- that’s what caused him to become un-co-operative towards me,
when he realised that actually he wasn’t going to be successful in fobbing
me off.
F Well, I suggest to you -- I’ll make it plain. His case is that you are either
being untruthful or mistaken when you say that he said that he was off to
do some work?
A Well, I certainly am being truthful.
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Q So, we’ve got in terms of your - obviously informing your thinking of
why he — why you thought he was working, you’ve got — it was a -- it
was a week day and it was during working hours?
Yes?

A Yes.
Q That’s equally consistent with going to see someone about future work.
Would you agree?

A Yes, it’s — in and of itself it’s not enough, no.
Q You make the point about his what you say were working clothes covered
in paint and dirt?
A Yes.
Q I suggest to you you’re wrong about that and in fact he had on maybe
scruffy jeans, but he wasn’t in workmen’s clothing?
A (No audible reply)
Q You’re wrong, aren’t you?
He had scruffy jeans on, but he didn’t have workmen’s clothing?
A Well, I — I can’t recall the exact clothing, but he looked to me like a
builder from the paint, the — the dirt on his clothes.
Q But we’ve got no description of the clothing really, have we?
A If I just refer to my notes. Yes. In my statement all I — all I say is that
they were dressed in clothing covered with paint and other dirt.
Q Jeans, overalls, colour?